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Post by Dan on Jun 8, 2012 21:34:11 GMT -6
What are some of your favorites?
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Post by chickenb on Jun 9, 2012 12:23:11 GMT -6
Comment on brief remark by Dan- There is definitely strategy when playing Yahtzee. You can decide to roll for top or bottom first, you can care or not care about the top bonus, you can always go for Yahtzee or be willing to scratch immediately, you can choose when and how to use chance. Anyway, I'd say I've been a hardcore Yahtzee player in my day, and I've played games where I've played safe or rolled the dice in a risky fashion. I will try any game...board, video, card, or table top. I've tried some of each. I am a strict rule follower, so I love the old straight-forward games that most view as limiting to the imagination.
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Post by creinhardt82 on Jun 9, 2012 12:26:56 GMT -6
Mouse Trap, the hardest board game ever created!! Along with Operation, a steady hand is needed.
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Post by stemily on Jun 10, 2012 2:30:46 GMT -6
I own Diplomacy, but I value my friendships so I've never actually played it. It sits on top of my Axis & Allies boxes and waits for the day when I feel like having a fight with someone.
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Post by chzburgrenthusiast on Jun 10, 2012 16:52:24 GMT -6
While listening to the debate about what games can be classified as board games, I wondered what category one of my favorite games, Mario Party 3, falls in. I am a huge fan of the Mario Party games and would personally consider them to be board games.
Like most things, I think board games are going the way of technology. I experienced this recently when I wanted to play a board game with my cousin's two kids who are 3 and 5 years old. I asked if they had any board games and they took me to their computer room. They tried to explain that their "board games" were on the computer, and I tried to explain to them what a tangible board game looked like. Finally I asked, "Candyland?" They ended up figuring it out, found the game in a closet, and we had fun playing. The sad part was realizing that this the direction that kids in future generations are headed. I would definitely recommend playing any kind of classic board game the next time you have a family get together.
Regarding Smallworld, I like the way that the races and their powers are structured so that the number of the army you draw for each race is different based on how good the race's special power is. The numbers of "men" to draw that are shown on each ability and race card avoid a player having an extremely overpowered race each turn.
I would love to know everyone's opinion on MP categorization and if anyone agrees that the races in Smallworld are well balanced, or if some have an advantage over others.
<3 Catan
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Post by Dan on Jun 10, 2012 23:45:49 GMT -6
Comment on brief remark by Dan- There is definitely strategy when playing Yahtzee. You can decide to roll for top or bottom first, you can care or not care about the top bonus, you can always go for Yahtzee or be willing to scratch immediately, you can choose when and how to use chance. Anyway, I'd say I've been a hardcore Yahtzee player in my day, and I've played games where I've played safe or rolled the dice in a risky fashion. I will try any game...board, video, card, or table top. I've tried some of each. I am a strict rule follower, so I love the old straight-forward games that most view as limiting to the imagination. I agree that there is some measure of strategy in Yahtzee, however, everyone sits down at the table with the same 1 in 1296 chance to roll a "Yahtzee". If you break down the mechanics of the D6 and roll 1 die at a time, treating each die as it's own "event", there is a 1 in 6 chance that you will roll the number you need, regardless of what that number is, and a 5 in 6 chance that it will be another number. There is nothing you can do to change that probability. This, like so many others, is a game of chance and educated guesses. The examples that you gave above are good strategies based on your educated guesses. I'm NOT a lucky dice roller. Because of that, and the fact that it is mathematically possible to lose that game no matter what I do, or the skill of my opponent, I'm not the biggest fan. That being said, I love games with dice, even if I'm cursed. A 5th level wizard in D&D 2E casts a fireball that does 5 D6 worth of damage. When I'm rolling that damage, I'm PRAYING for a "Yahtzee" of all 6s! It's the same mechanic, but it feels different to me because there seems to be more at stake. While there is nothing wrong with Yahtzee, Craps, Ship-Captain-Crew, and the like, they just don't have enough moving parts to keep me entertained for an extended period of time. Blame it on my ADD and GAME ON! |
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Post by Dan on Jun 11, 2012 10:28:27 GMT -6
While listening to the debate about what games can be classified as board games, I wondered what category one of my favorite games, Mario Party 3, falls in. I am a huge fan of the Mario Party games and would personally consider them to be board games. Like most things, I think board games are going the way of technology. I experienced this recently when I wanted to play a board game with my cousin's two kids who are 3 and 5 years old. I asked if they had any board games and they took me to their computer room. They tried to explain that their "board games" were on the computer, and I tried to explain to them what a tangible board game looked like. Finally I asked, "Candyland?" They ended up figuring it out, found the game in a closet, and we had fun playing. The sad part was realizing that this the direction that kids in future generations are headed. I would definitely recommend playing any kind of classic board game the next time you have a family get together. Regarding Smallworld, I like the way that the races and their powers are structured so that the number of the army you draw for each race is different based on how good the race's special power is. The numbers of "men" to draw that are shown on each ability and race card avoid a player having an extremely overpowered race each turn. I would love to know everyone's opinion on MP categorization and if anyone agrees that the races in Smallworld are well balanced, or if some have an advantage over others. <3 Catan I hadn't really thought about the Mario Party thing but that is an interesting concept. Does playing Sorry or Clue on the Wii count as playing a board game? Hmmm, for me, I don't think so. I personally like to have all of the tangibles and fiddly bits at hand when playing a board game. I think it adds to the experience. While video games may be more visually engaging, I think they detract from the "feel" of the social event aspect of a board game. Regarding Smallworld... the random races and powers mechanic is a good one, and for the most part, balanced. However, you can come across some weird combinations that, depending on the circumstances, can be devastating to your opposition one game, and do nothing for you in the next one. Merchant Ghouls for the win! |
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Post by bryan on Jun 11, 2012 13:14:15 GMT -6
I think video game board games are very similar to the real experience. I know people who are addicted to Catan and Uno on the 360.
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Post by enragedxninja on Jun 11, 2012 20:05:08 GMT -6
I really want to play that board game you guys mentioned, the board game for Call of Cuthulu.
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Post by chickenb on Jun 12, 2012 11:41:48 GMT -6
In reply to Dan...I think it is safe to say most, if not all board games and card games, rely on chance. For example, any game with a spinner such as Life, of course any game with dice, as well as any game you draw a card to determine your fate, such as Sorry are all dumb luck to a degree. Even Monopoly- you can take many turns prior to encountering the opportunity to invest in property. By then, luxury tax could have cursed you more than once. Yahtzee isn't necessarily all about rolling a Yahtzee. I think there are different goals, and they change as the game proceeds based on the luck and decisions made by other players. With all things considered, Yahtzee can be strategized as much as many other games. It boils down to attention span as you mentioned and general interest/ enjoyment experienced during play.
Anyway, bottom line, most gaming experiences operate on a basis of chance, luck, odds....and when gaming, may the odds be ever in your favor.
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Post by chickenb on Jun 12, 2012 11:46:27 GMT -6
Video game/pc versions of classic board games can be entertaining and fun, but for me, the real deal always wins. I like the convenience of the newer versions, but sitting around a table with good company is the winning element for me.
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Post by chickenb on Jun 12, 2012 11:53:07 GMT -6
In reply to chzburg, I also love Mario party games, and for me, each version is definitely a board game in my mind.
Cheers to Mario Party!
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Post by chzburgrenthusiast on Jun 12, 2012 12:04:14 GMT -6
I also enjoy a tangible game to a virtual one if given the option. I think what sets a game Mario Party apart is that there is no other format to play it in.
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Post by Dan on Jun 13, 2012 0:00:49 GMT -6
In reply to Dan...I think it is safe to say most, if not all board games and card games, rely on chance. For example, any game with a spinner such as Life, of course any game with dice, as well as any game you draw a card to determine your fate, such as Sorry are all dumb luck to a degree. Even Monopoly- you can take many turns prior to encountering the opportunity to invest in property. By then, luxury tax could have cursed you more than once. Yahtzee isn't necessarily all about rolling a Yahtzee. I think there are different goals, and they change as the game proceeds based on the luck and decisions made by other players. With all things considered, Yahtzee can be strategized as much as many other games. It boils down to attention span as you mentioned and general interest/ enjoyment experienced during play. Anyway, bottom line, most gaming experiences operate on a basis of chance, luck, odds....and when gaming, may the odds be ever in your favor. I just like lots of nuts and bolts and fiddly bits in my games, mix that in with a little strategy, and a sprinkle of random, maybe a dash of humor, and you have my attention for days. |
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Post by Fats on Jun 14, 2012 19:52:41 GMT -6
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Post by Orryn Emrys on Jun 29, 2012 7:55:59 GMT -6
As we recently discussed on our own program, I just bought Cards Against Humanity last week... and my group can't get enough of it! I need to see if I can find a copy of the expansion. The replayability is good, but it's not near as big a set as, say, Apples to Apples, so you see a lot of the same cards pop up repetitively. It's a freakin' hilarious game!
I will say that the decision to deal in my 17-year-old daughter has been very... um... instructive, shall we say? *grins*
Great episode, gents!
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Post by Dan on Jun 29, 2012 11:36:16 GMT -6
As we recently discussed on our own program, I just bought Cards Against Humanity last week... and my group can't get enough of it! I need to see if I can find a copy of the expansion. The replayability is good, but it's not near as big a set as, say, Apples to Apples, so you see a lot of the same cards pop up repetitively. It's a freakin' hilarious game! I will say that the decision to deal in my 17-year-old daughter has been very... um... instructive, shall we say? *grins* Great episode, gents! My step-son wants to play this game..... I'm scared. Looks fun and disturbing. cardsagainsthumanity.com/ |
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Post by Orryn Emrys on Oct 10, 2012 13:54:41 GMT -6
Seriously... Lords of Waterdeep is the bomb! This is the first D&D-related board game I've bought this century, and I am sincerely impressed by the concept, the rules, the mechanics, and the pacing. The side of the box says you can play it in about an hour, but with methodical strategizers it tends to take closer to two. It can only handle up to five players, but we've now played it several times with a full compliment and a couple times with only three... it was a blast every time. Also, though the game has a lot of fiddly bits and quite a bit of crunch, the rules are more an adjustment to thinking than a challenge to understand. My 17-year-old daughter enjoys it just as much as the biggest strategist in the group!
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Post by Dan on Oct 10, 2012 21:41:07 GMT -6
Seriously... Lords of Waterdeep is the bomb! This is the first D&D-related board game I've bought this century, and I am sincerely impressed by the concept, the rules, the mechanics, and the pacing. The side of the box says you can play it in about an hour, but with methodical strategizers it tends to take closer to two. It can only handle up to five players, but we've now played it several times with a full compliment and a couple times with only three... it was a blast every time. Also, though the game has a lot of fiddly bits and quite a bit of crunch, the rules are more an adjustment to thinking than a challenge to understand. My 17-year-old daughter enjoys it just as much as the biggest strategist in the group! I've been chomping at the bit for that one for a while now. It looks like exactly the kind of board game that I love. |
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